Apple Destroyed my Expectations.

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    1. i game i do research too

      what holds me from buying it at all is barely any integrated peripherals (is that what its called?) like there is no internal mic and the speakers are so bad that they are comparable to my 2007 macbook easily and there are barely any other stuff a daily user would need

    2. tyler mowrey

      @18:05 what brand computer chair is that??

    3. Alienbreeder's Amiga Retro Computing

      I almost feel bad for the mini. It is meant to be an entry level system, but people are testing it against high-end workstations. It does well anyway, but this is a bit unfair

    4. Aaron Carr

      Screws LOL - and true, this is disruptive technology

    5. Jan Dekker

      What was that? OFFICE WON'T RUN?

    6. stormtrooper69

      can you run arm linux on it? Android? If so how is performance?

      1. adalaza

        Linux isn't brilliant yet, a number of drivers need to be developed. GPU is the Achilles heel, you're limited to software rendering right now... Android is significantly down the road unless Cupertino is interested in helping out FOSS. If you're OK with using MacOS for the length of the device's support or a year or two, it's likely the platform will be a lot more mature.

    7. Yegor Berdyugin

      @13:18, I appreciate that you tried running Tenserflow! Helped me decide if I should wait a bit before buying a Mac Book (Air or Pro).

    8. Kenneth Anderson

      Based on all the benchmarks.... Buy a Ryzen 5 PC 😜

    9. John D

      "Some of you felt..." that was your first mistake.

    10. pmackni

      To be fair to Linus amid the apparent onslaught of Apple fans, Apple has done a pretty good job of making it such that you're either a fan or you're a hater. Because if you're not with them, you're against them, and people love jumping on board that ship. I personally am not a fan of Apple, and it really has nothing to do with their products (I mean, controlling hardware and software allows for far better optimization than Microsoft can achieve with Windows) and EVERYTHING to do with how they manage their company and have historically interacted and attempted to monopolize dealings with software partners (even if the latter has improved some over the last decade). I also have a distaste for the pared-down style interface, but that has more to do with my personal taste than anything, even when it comes to who/what students/professionals I think should buy into iOS vs Windows.

    11. loudy loudy

      مَّا یَفۡعَلُ ٱللَّهُ بِعَذَابِكُمۡ إِن شَكَرۡتُمۡ وَءَامَنتُمۡۚ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ شَاكِرًا عَلِیمࣰا What would Allah do with your punishment if you are grateful and believe? And ever is Allah Appreciative and Knowing. The Quran -Sourate An-Nisa', Aya 147 PS: Allah is the name of God in arabic . The arabic jewish and the christians arabs they say Allah too as Muslims do . In the arabic bible it is written Allah. Only 18% of Muslims are Arabs but there are 82 % they are Muslims but not Arabs so the majority of Muslims are not Arabs . And the arabic world islam, it means submission which is the religion of all prophets since Adam including the messengers Moses, Jesus and Muhamad peace and blessing of Allah be upon Them all . Thanks I wich you all the best from heart .

    12. EmoGamingXD

      It only comes with 8gb and 200 more for 16 seems alot.

    13. Alpha Hot1

      welcome back to powerpc vs intel

    14. Retzxs

      wait MY NAME IS APOLLo

    15. SappyJupiter37

      i just cant get over that desktop background..

    16. Bougie

      This computer is faster for 10 bit 4:2:2 shooter by 2-3x. Sony a7s 3 and canon r5 are two examples. This is because of h.265 hardware encoding support. (Specifically 4:2:2)

    17. Iosephus Doyle

      No upgrade path = junk product! These are junk - tell the people the truth! Remember when Macs used RISC CPU's..the M1 chip is just another modern version of the RISC chipset - I am not saying the are technically the same still they are not standard intel Cisc chips/ cpu's. Junk Junk Junk!

      1. Aditya Bhattacharya

        Calm down dude why are u so mad

    18. yaacoub sakkal

      He looks like threatened by apple

    19. C0rnD0g_

      The M1 is a beast. Not my cup of tea, but got one for my wife to replace her 7th Gen i5 / RX 570 Hackintosh. So far it does everything better/faster (including WoW), and considering this is the first release, can't wait to see the 2nd and 3rd Gen!

    20. Philippe Messmer

      Hi, great vid ! I think i’ll go for this Mini M1, could you recommend a display that would work great with it (ideally in a 24’’, 4k format) ? Thanks

    21. Joshua Kollar

      Dont erase the HDD in an attempt to reset it.. high chance of being bricked currently

    22. Kairus Chris Denoy

      bruh. you had me choked on mentioning Spirit of the Law. thought there'd gonna be an AoE2 reference. 😂

    23. hummus shotgun

      I'm happy with my 2012 mini for music production.

    24. Uthman Baksh

      If this this gets glowing reviews, then I can't wait to see the next generation of Apple Silicon Macs.

    25. Anthony Fraser

      Thank you kindly I watched it 3 times just to understand everything ⚠️🧐🤔I’m buying it

    26. DAN KOLLARS

      any American would have to be a fool to ever purchase an apple product again after they banned the Parler app, especially if you are conservative.

    27. Tigerex966

      8 core to 8 core, or else when doing a single core, you must use both threads on intel and AMD to make it fair.

    28. Tigerex966

      You have extremely low expectations, no upgradeability ever, no egpu support, no repairability ever, and soso compatibility. No Boot camp. No 32 bit code. no true windows mode. No OSX version, but Big Sur that means osx 10 all the way to Big sur, about 15 different versions, and you can only use one. And cost a mint to add 8gb for $200. Only 2.7 Teraflops for graphics or 256gb more ssd is $200, 1 TB $400, 2TB you might as well bring $2000, and Apple keeps your base 256GB SSD for another sucker.. However the machine learning, AI, rendering, decoding, encoding DSPS for all of the various formats by special computational hardware software combos, is excellent. Not the fastest at single core or multicore, but very good for the price if you stay away from the 16GB 1 and 2 TB systems, which are not as big of a bargain as the base models, because of apples greed on non upgradeable memory and storage.

    29. Musetekk

      But did you uncheck the fps cap in advanced in WOW?

    30. MORADA ETERNA

      GREAT VIDEO!! Question-short as I can-I have a mid-iMac 5k 2107 i7 512 16 with a 580...trade in @ Apple $1140,-getting REALLY TIRED of occasional beach balls and fans spinning-at times slow.... iMac mini M1 I want 1tb 16 $1448.00 with CARE... If I trade out of pocket price under $400-should I do this?? Have a Tuesday appt...only thing is I am REALLY used to the 5k screen...I do 4K but more 1080 both at 60...what do you think...?? Let me know thanks

      1. adalaza

        What did you end up doing? Personally I don't find the differences between 5K and 4K to be that big

    31. Austin Beck

      Used digital storm the people Linus loves, after a couple months the parts started breaking down and would reset three times a day. I finally sent it back after the digital storm cpu fan completely failed and the system shut down. I lost all my data from a fatal system crash. Never had that problem with my windows laptop or any apple computer I’ve ever purchased. Bought one of the most expensive workstations digital storm had and waited almost two months to get it. Apple is gearing up to wipe out all of the “custom high end” computer companies because they are better I gave your people a fair chance but these built computers are not worth the headache or cost. You don’t save money or time with these custom built systems and the system will crash to often for you to get the performance. You want to hate apple because there taking over the computer industry not because of the product. They are better, fast, have great service and trade in options and they have now apple has just created a economical product that nobody can beat price wise or efficiency wise. Give credit we’re credit is do apple is the best computer company by far. RIP custom built systems

    32. marek borcz

      May be same operation are in memory.Quick list orders.Can be special address memory buffer with quick acces.Bufer quick memory for wifi card.Wifi speed controller with list orders.Small controller display video card buffering display two lines or more.Core use optimiser.Emulator video.Video lier for quick speed performance .Quick access memory RAM.Quick order list for better performance.Console for optimal use with auto controller.Address memory for quick reconnect address on memory pocket.List orders pocket for core controllers.Back ground application controller switcher.Antivirus use optimiser switcher connection controller.

    33. Jeremy Saklad

      Xcode just runs Clang. You could have tested compilation time on the Ryzen rig too.

    34. ZUCKER

      Can it run cyberpunk ?

    35. Jeremy Saklad

      Who uses Crossover Office on macOS? Just use Wine you weirdos

    36. Nathan Sandy

      Awesome :)

    37. awpdog

      If the housing for the silver Mini and the grey mini are the same, would it be possibly to just swap them?

    38. MCAlexis The TCF Fan est. 2020

      By far, the biggest flex was that M1, M2, M3 will put more bigger “screws” on Intel. No offence intended!

    39. David in Barstow

      I would simply use the usb-c to connect it to my 43-in curved monitor and then plug all my USB into the monitor. That's what I do now with my Lenovo laptop.

    40. Drinner D

      Linus or someone who knows... who made your awesome animated intro? I love it. I would really like to find out who made it and see if I can track down some other work of their's!

    41. maevian

      Displayport mst doesn't work on osx, apple never implemented this in the OS

    42. Irzan

      in my country, Mac Mini M1 have same roughly same price with MacBook Air M1

    43. OmkarSwarnaAnand

      'Carmode' - Linus 2020

    44. Eddie Moser

      FOR THE HORDE!!!!

    45. abey shiferaw

      linus = apple hater

    46. dbjrus

      I know this is a mini review. However, a year ago I bought the 16 inch MacBook Pro after waiting years, and I am glad I did because the recent announce would still have me waiting. I watched one fanboy review that explained how snappy app launch is on the M1 laptops. I watched how the Chrome icon bounced multiple times before the actual app appeared. On my MacBook pro, Chrome is fully launched before the Chrome icon is able to complete one full bounce. (e.g. < 1 sec). When you compare the Intel and Apple laptops in the future, please provide specs on the SSD and memory because Apple has been guilty of using low quality components in Intel Macs. My 16 inch Mac seems to be the first Mac where the components were not multiple revisions behind what could be found in Windows systems. Lastly, an old trick is to build processors that are designed to do very well in benchmarks. General purpose results will normally be less than that. I will also say I am using Matlab 2020 and VSCode along with other tools, and I rarely hear my fan.

    47. DoYouEvenLift

      Anyone know what display that is behind him at 0:40?

    48. knislappen

      Why a 2070S not a 3070??

    49. ASTRAL0

      Dude you have no clue what you are talking about ! So sad computer enthusiasts have come down to this ....

    50. Zes

      wrg

    51. enkrypt3d

      yay more adapters upon adapters upon adapters. wtf

    52. jesseb0rn

      Only amd gpus are supported by macos

    53. ricead

      You forgot to mention the problems of still no touch screen and having to buy all your apps again and no Microsoft software :-(

      1. Julien Lindauer

        @stultus es It's a desktop mini-tower, with...no screen to be found, let alone a touchscreen. For Windows, it's up to Microsoft to release a public ARM version.

      2. stultus es

        @Julien Lindauer Still doesn't negate what he said now does it Why do people think deflective arguments are a valid response?

      3. Julien Lindauer

        It's a Mac mini...

    54. Lloyd Kenney III

      thanks for the video

    55. jane doe

      would it be possible to install android and through android install emulators that would run faster than say running from a snapdragon cpu?

    56. Fannie Hansen

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    57. Aditya Pharande

      This is exactly the result of huge investment in R & D. Talk shit about huge apple products margins or not. This is the exact reason why corps Like Intel , Nvidia , Apple. Revolutionize the industry. While other companies like AMD, samsung and other chinese brand just sell things for quick by just increasing unncessary numbers like. RAM VRAM MP GB QHD UHD. Every single time we have seen Big companies change the industries. as seen in mobile devices, laptops, Automobile, Watch, Headphones. What you want to spend money on is your choice. All you can eat buffet (with focus on quantity margins with no future planning) Or A well known michelin star restaurant (which focus on quality , R & D , with solid future planning for its art)

    58. P M

      1 - People without Pc or with bad pc - Buy Mac Air or Mini for work 2 - Gamers - 8 core GPU with (75% performance rosetta) and lack of games, it´s really bad. 3 - Work - Only if really need new hardware now, for sure all people will wait until the new processor come out. 4- Old Intel Mac owners - Selling everything and wait for a better processor.

      1. P M

        @stultus es I think this will serve a LOT of small business and student. And yes windowns still domaninte because Apple is so stupid and greedy. But a Mac mini intel cost 3000 vs 699 that's a huge deal. I think Intel has limites Apple grow so much that hurt the grow of evolution, now microsoft and intel will suffer from lack of integration and cost-effective software. Apple has the opportunitie huge in 2021.

      2. stultus es

        You wouldn't buy this for work! Microsoft totally rules the corporate world

    59. P M

      I think Apple needs 16 GPU cores on a mac pro 13' and minimum 36GPU on Mini. M1 is a good processor for Ipad and mac air. I expected better graphics for games because most of the users who switch PCs each year are Medium/Light Gamers. The switch to ARM with only 8 Graphics Units it is not attractive to make the change today, better wait for more 6 months. Better choose AMD with higher specs at the same range price.

      1. P M

        @Aditya Bhattacharya I made some math, with 16 GPU core mac will be better the Xbox series S, for series X will need 36 cores to be equal. like I sad mac pro 13 deserve 16 GPU core because the cooler can handle fine with more 8 cores and more 15/19 watts. The mini will be the best with minimum 36 cores GPU, the power today of the mini can handle fine until 56GPU cores like xbox X (the intel processor use the same cooling and consume much more). This will be the best cenario. Today Apple has 10% market share, so to make the new step they need bring the game market to Mac. (this considering that Apple uses the same envelope as the M1) Considering this Apple Air is the best now, Pro and Mini sucks.

      2. Aditya Bhattacharya

        @P M series s is a really really good deal though. Sad it costs 489 us dollars in my country

      3. P M

        @Aditya Bhattacharya You said the true, that is why is a good way to really make people migrate to Apple, give entry level minimum spec to games like xbox series S, make something that anyone has done. All other are doing the same thing.

      4. Aditya Bhattacharya

        Also there is no amd laptop that can beat it in it's price range

      5. Aditya Bhattacharya

        Dude macbooks are ultrabooks and ultrabooks are not gaming devices even windows ultrabooks can't game well the best ultrabook for gaming is a razer blade stealth 13 which still has a 1650 which cannot do 1080p 60

    60. lookoutforchris

      Look at the cope in this video. The non-apology is hilarious. This guy says there was nothing to back it up at launch... so I guess he hadn’t seen the already released A14 geekbench scores? The M1 uses A14 cores but higher TDP, so the performance should be a bit better. Anyone who actually follows the chip industry already knew the A14 beat every intel processor in single core. Apple’s claims on the M1 were only a slight stretch from the A14 numbers. Really the only unknown was how many cores and what TDP. It also only took a very short while for actual M1 benchmarks to come out, maybe wait for data before making pronouncements and maintain a bit of humility. Lame take.

    61. Phil Stephens

      What's a wallet? All my cards fit in my phone.

    62. Z_Borg C4rmen

      But does it runs minecraft?

    63. viraltaco

      Steve Jobs is most likely spinning in his grave. Fucking disgraceful.

      1. viraltaco

        ​@Julien Lindauer I understand your point of view. The thing is… Well clearly they didn't want to drive down their margin. So I guess they aren't expecting the device to be successful. Retooling would cost less but only if you sell enough units to justify the cost. They clearly don't want to sell this.

      2. Julien Lindauer

        @viraltaco I think it's more cost-effective to leave the case unchanged, since it doesn't require to change the production line and the additional costs from having to re-engineer the inside. But an even smaller Mac mini would be sexy.

      3. viraltaco

        @Julien Lindauer It has no place in a desktop computer. In fact i'm pretty sure Apple agrees since they've manages to make a desktop which is 90% air. Steve Jobs would have never let that pass. If there was wasted space it would have been utilized or reduced, almost to a fault. It's not just a matter of laziness. It negatively affects EVERY SINGLE step of distribution. This air is costing Apple tens of millions a year. (I'd do the maths but if Apple can't be bothered I'm not gonna bother either) It's a hole in their pocket. Which is literally the last thing they needed given their dreathful financials in 2020.

      4. Julien Lindauer

        What's wrong ? The M1 is a big leap forward !

    64. BQ8BEeM78aY126DGqmQbwyi0 k25wFR7sia5s3cmpBCAcwlOC

      Yikes, even Apple can’t stand the internet comments. Maybe they have a team who reads them.

    65. Jasp3r91

      lol basically only stupid people buy apple products. you are either ok paying 5000% for 0.05% functionality compared to linux/windows systems or you're so egotistical that you buy things solely based on what other people think of you. you wouldn't be caught dead with last year's iPhone... lmfao. Scientists will study and publish DSM-5 keys from the conclusions drawn on the brains and behaviors of the apple consumer sheep herd. Android users on average understand the magic of technology and buy practical personal devices at reasonable cost; on the other hand, Apple users.. well, they "think different" :).

      1. Syailen Thahir

        But this video isn’t about iOS vs Android and if you think these m1 computers suck, they’re not

      2. sunflower

        out of context

      3. Julien Lindauer

        Thank you, but that's not an Apple vs Android comparison, which, by the way comes to Apple's advantage.

    66. aIysdexia

      not powerful..sips power, ocsýmòron; you also reversed two of the benchmarks in M1's favor. is !-> they; 1 != 2 gaf , syug ton llits

    67. Kyle Moore

      Uh, your words say the m1 smoked the intel Mac mini but the chart says the m1 Mac mini took longer than the intel Mac mini in handbrake 1.4.0 hardware encoding.

    68. Dan MarX

      will this M1 chip or we say ARM chips, will it replace all x86 chips we used in our computers like INTEL and AMD in future????

    69. Naren Sid

      Doesn't it already have a "8 core CPU"? 11:45

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    72. quinxx12

      13:40 What does "Native" represent in these graphs? This section interested me the most, but Linus' narration was rather cryptic here.

      1. Kanad Godse

        Native means ARM version. Rosetta means x86 version.

    73. Mahir Fredericks

      I just don't understand why fanboys dick ride massive corporations... you know they just make products in exchange for your money right? your loyalty should be to yourself...

    74. SadlyBest

      I wonder if the thermal controls, for Intel Mac, make it suffer more

    75. Nicola Larosa

      "So, tell you what: don't take my word for it, take Apple's word for it. You guys are good at that." BURNED

    76. Clarissa 1986

      and with Apple's switch to ARM, byebye Hackintosh.

    77. Hooper Gaming

      Hi

    78. Douglas Widick

      “Balls slow”

    79. Johnny Shields

      Final Fantasy XIV has a canned benchmark. Runs on Windows and Mac so you can run comparative benchmarks as well.

    80. Radical HippieTech

      Extra to help make apple better....... only extra apple has is money... maybe future money port...... They have that lightning

    81. Алексей Кислица

      Why you didn't build native ninja for test? I think all tools which are used more one time should be compiled for target platform. IMHO Rosseta2 for binaries without accessible source code. I think person, who need ninja on Apple M1 hard, build it without any problem.

    82. awlabrador

      Still waiting for Anthony's full reviews of the M1 MBP and MBA.

    83. MyImList

      This ARM deal feels much like when Ryzen first came out. People poo-pooed Ryzen and focused on the "Growing Pains" issues of early Ryzen. ... I have a feeling that by 2023 the ARM haters (wait, is it ARM Haters, or Mac haters?) will be ARM fans. . PEACE!

    84. michael andrews

      If Apple weren't such an evil anti consumer company known for human rights abuses and rampant litigation against people attempting to repair apple products this would be tempting.

    85. ChocoSixBeans

      so I want to see the hobo change cup again...

    86. David Ward

      An iPad running Mac OS in 2021?

    87. Fred Derf

      Why not compare the MacBook Air with a comparably priced entry level Windows laptop? Or an AMD desktop that draws the same power as a Mac Mini?

    88. TooFriendly

      The Linus clickbait cycle continues. Shocked and appalled when news is announced > apology video or ‘I’m amazed!’ Video when actually using the product. It’s so transparent that it’s disturbing how many people treat this as an actual tech information channel. Instead of the tech-drama channel that it actually is.

    89. Daniel Engelthaler

      Okay, let me share my two cents on this as a fellow UNIX/Linux user. From what I have seen right now the OS is way worse than a KDE Plasma with Latte Dock - and I did the ultimate test here by asking my Mrs. which 'Mac' she would buy and she likes my Linux GUI more, saying that the actual Mac OS looks too complicated . Now let's talk hardware for a bit. 4 'performance cores' and 4 'efficiency cores' are either the same bollocks that I have in my $200 budget smartphone from the 'evil' Chinese company called Huawei or just this hyperthreading thing where I have 4 actually fully featured cores whilst there is 4 more cores without an FPU, so I won't really recommend to run anything on these... So what this really comes down to is a $65 Raspberry Pi 4B 8GB in a MacBook 'Pro' case with an ugly GUI for over twice the price of an Lenovo ThinkPad E595 with 32GB RAM and two SSDs, one of which being an NVMe one. I don't know about you guys but in Germany we call this full on FRAUD. Yes my friends, full on FRAUD, that's what it is! So my suggestion to solve this issue: Either keep your 'old' X86 Mac or get yourself the cheapest Lenovo Laptop there is, get some cool stickers to put on the back and install Linux. And if you want an actually very stylish beyond Apple look and feel I would suggest Hefftor Linux Plasma which just happened to have released a new version which you can download under www.hefftorlinux.net . Welcome to 2021!

    90. JohnD

      Apple's marketing was a mistake. The Mac mini had a lot of issues and for me the performance was a huge disappointment. I know that with optimized applications it has a lot of potential, but the numbers in practice are not even close of what Apple said. They lied. The last Big Sur update solved my issues with the displays, but I still don't see a huge performance increase in the apps I use every day comparing to my MacBook Pro from 2014. The performance difference with an almost 7 year old laptop should be huge, but it is not there, and most apps work at the same speed.

    91. Oskar Carls

      The moment when you can run you pc witch your phone charger XD

      1. Dr.Vader_theOfficial

        Kinda cool

    92. Anthony James

      I love your videos.did you know Nick I had could be your twin he host Rocket Around The Christmas tree a show where teams use small rocket engines to launch Christmas items.on direct. Tv ch 279 o well have a Very merry Christmas.

    93. malikul abdullah

      i hate apple but we need competition...

      1. Fun Study

        WHY DO YOU HATE AAPLE?

    94. Konrad Mosoń

      2:53 NOPE. Mult-Stream Transport doesn't work on macOS to drive multiple displays! Apple sucks with this, and MST only works for their 5K/6K monitors to drive single display through 2 DisplayPort lines. I have Thunderbolt Dell WB19TB dock and - no luck with MST. At company when we've got MacBooks Pro - still no luck - we had to switch docking stations to ones with DisplayLink. Just because Apple is stupid enough not to write proper code for MST over last 10 years which they even claim (!!!!) they support (because MST is since DisplayPort 1.2 and they claim they support it, but… nah… not correctly)

    95. Sir Loin

      It wasn’t overly vague, they didn’t throw the m1 in a Mac Pro and say it’s best and fastest thing ever. it’s in apples low end machines, the mini and air. So naturally anyone with a brain would understand that those machines are still competing in that same tier. NOT HIGH END DESKTOPS!!

    96. Sir Loin

      You were and are, you’re a snobby darsh, who names their kid Linus? Parents fans of peanuts or what?

    97. Wycliff Studios

      So many sore Intel fans in the Comment section. Super Toxic Comment Section.

    98. Kepler Smith

      Did Linus just admit, full heartedly, that “IT JUST WORKS”?. I’m so proud of him. (5:55)

    99. NSD

      I didn't get the "putting the screws to Intel" joke. Can someone explain it what the Apple Silicon model numbers have to do with putting the screws to Intel?

    100. Mayank Verma

      Intel is dead to me after I got my RYZEN 7